Superman renounces his citizenship

Posted by Troy on 28th April 2011 in Current Events, Entertainment

DC comics has decided to have Superman renounce his US citizenship stating “Truth Justice and the American Way It’s not enough anymore.” 

Who buys comics?  Mostly Americans I reckon…

How dare they?  Do you know how many people are trying to get citizenship?  How many are going through pure hell in paperwork and legal costs to do this?  The statements are clear that DC (and I must assume that these views are shared by Warner Brothers as well since they own DC Comics) is a fan of the “world view”/world government.

Bleep Superman.  I urge a boycott of Warner Brothers, all DC franchises, and particularly Superman.  They intended this to be a political statement, but it is really a slap in the face of the American identity.  Show me any one country that has done more for the world than America.  We have fought for more people and sacrificed more treasure than any other country in history. 

Superman’s real kryptonite is lack of comic sales.  Hit them where it hurts, and I bet they’ll be doing a special issue where he retakes the citizenship oaths.

33 Responses to “Superman renounces his citizenship”

  1. Boycott calls growing for DC Comics over new Superman issue | Superman – The Man of Steel Says:

    [...] Superman’s real kryptonite is lack of comic sales.  Hit them where it hurts, and I bet they’ll be doing a special issue where he retakes the citizenship oaths. – Swamp Fox Press [...]

  2. John Utah Says:

    My God. You do realize this is a comic book, right? A work of fiction? Superman isn’t real.

    It’s a fvcking story line. Everything will be back to the same old same old three months from now.

    Besides he’s having a crisis of faith. The same kind of crisis of faith I have when I listen to Teabagger douche bags say they have America’s values in mind. He’s felt this way before. Back when Lex Luthor was president.

    Wait… Evil megalomanical businessman intent on taking over the world to further his own business interests and line his own pockets? Where have I heard that before?

    You people make me sick.

  3. Leon Says:

    “Show me any one country that has done more for the world than America.”

    A: France

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  5. Michael Scott Says:

    It’s a comic book. Fantasy. Fun. It’s not meant to be taken seriously, except, I suppose, by those who take themselves too seriously.

  6. Troy Troy Says:

    Yes. France is known for going to fight other people’s wars. Unless you are speaking of by assisting in the formation of America (which their help was very much a sunshine friend situtation), you really need to back up your assertion.

  7. Troy Troy Says:

    Sigh. I’m afraid you don’t get it. Art, fiction, music, movies, et cetera all have power. This goes especially true for the youth (who are the main readers of comics). Unless your take is that only things in the physical world have any substance or power, your argument is invalid. If that is your arguement, then I couldn’t disagree with you more. Intellectual works, the forces of spirit and creativity, have done more good and evil in this world than the might of the sword.

  8. Troy Troy Says:

    I take ideas seriously, regardless of the format in which they are presented to me.

  9. Leon Says:

    “Sigh. I’m afraid you don’t get it. Art, fiction, music, movies, et cetera all have power. This goes especially true for the youth (who are the main readers of comics). Unless your take is that only things in the physical world have any substance or power, your argument is invalid. If that is your arguement, then I couldn’t disagree with you more. Intellectual works, the forces of spirit and creativity, has done more good and evil in this world than the might of the sword.”

    What the hell does that even mean?

    I’m laughing too hard to type … I swear, it’s like being inside the mind of a third year community college student right after it got hit by a nitrous oxide tank.

  10. Richard Baldwin Says:

    You should change the name of this comic book to “Swamp GAS Press”, it would be much more appropriate. Also, I suggest you and your teabaggy buddies consider reading some books that are not mostly pictures with big print.

    Dumb, lusting after those two old road ho’s Sarah and Michele, and chanting USA! We’re Number ONE!!! Is no way to go through life.

    You don’t see the problem, you are the problem. It’s probably not to late to escape being a slave to the Bros. Koch and their minions, please open your eyes to the real world and try to make it a better place instead of just whining about people who are trying to change it for the better.

  11. Troy Troy Says:

    If you’re not intelligent enough to understand the response, It’s okay. I’m glad I brought a smile to your face. You’re welcome.

  12. Troy Troy Says:

    Actually, I’m not a member of the tea party. Group think has never been my style.

  13. Jerry Says:

    Ahaha, tea-baggers will boycot reading… Aren’t you guys boycotting reading since the beginning?

  14. Troy Troy Says:

    So…everyone you disagree with is a tea-bagger? I thought you communists liked boycotts. Get on board! Besides, Left and Right both work to burn books and destroy ideas. That’s a whole “kettle black” situation.

  15. Michael L. Says:

    No, Troy, “Left” and “Right” do not both work to burn books — totalitarian dictatorships and otherwise extremist governments/parties/etc have done it. And yes, these things have at various times and places professed right wing and left wing ideologies. However, particularly insofar as they do things like burn books, silence political opposition, and so forth, they all tend to look and act in remarkably similar fashion despite allegedly having different political philosophies. In other words, “Left” and “Right” actually have very little to do with it.

    However, it’s disturbing that you seem to believe that any given piece of writing (or art, or whatever) must in every issue and on every page coincide with your own preferred political and cultural philosophy. Or at the very least, that if you should find any such view expressed anywhere, your impulse is to demand boycott and directly impute the view with which you disagree not only to the writer and editorial staff, but to every conceivable company connected with same…no matter how distantly and without a shred of evidence that the view actually is meant to be some sort of mega-corporate political manifesto.

  16. Troy Troy Says:

    My gripe is more that this is targeted to young, impressionable readers. It does promote a “world view” mentality. This is fine for adults to consider. However, planting such an idea in the heads of children is reckless. The ideologies exposed to them when they are young are likely to become the ideologies they accept as adults. If Superman were an adult franchise of some sort, I would have no problem with it. It is not. These are ideas that are being presented to children. Parents should be aware of these views being shown to their children and make a determination what it is or is not appropriate. If more people think it’s appropriate, then I suppose DC will make a lot more money, and they will be right, and I will be wrong. That’s the beauty of capitalism. Per usual, the argument turns on parental responsibility. And yes, if the parents disagree with the ideas presented, I do think they should boycott the franchise. How else do the make their disapproval known? Should they keep on giving the franchise money if they disagree with what is being said? It’s called choice. Boycott just means, “I’m not buying a product of which I disapprove.”

  17. Michael L. Says:

    First, if it was a “parental responsibility” issue, then you should have included that in the original post. Leaving that aside though, I take exception to the notion that parents should (or even can) shield their children from absolutely everything of which they approve. In fact, I find the notion downright dangerous and distasteful.

    Explicit violence, sex, profanity, and so forth…yes, we can agree that parents should have control over whether children should have access to such things. It is for this reason, for example, I would not allow a young child to watch Game of Thrones on HBO even though I happen to think it’s a superb show.

    But utterly shielding children from any political, social, or cultural viewpoint (wherever expressed) because the parent doesn’t “like” or “agree” with it? That almost gets into cult territory. I also think it does children a profound disservice, and it certainly isn’t an expression of “capitalism.” In fact, it is almost the opposite of a free market, its just enforced indoctrination. Parents should take an interest in what their children read and watch, and be willing to discuss and offer their own viewpoints to their children, but the level of censorship you seem to advocate here goes far beyond what’s appropriate or healthy. And I suspect in most cases in the modern age, even possible.

    You might be surprised at the average age of the modern comic book reader, by the way. Particularly in the old prestige titles, the audience is mostly adults these days. In fact, I would wager dimes to dollars that they’d take a much, much larger financial hit if were they to go back to the days when the Comics Code Authority had approval power over every issue. So in reality, “capitalism” would if anything dictate that they remain controversial.

  18. Troy Troy Says:

    So…it’s okay to shield them from the ideas you disapprove of, but not the one’s the parents disagree of? As long as it’s the parents that are paying out the money for the comic, they get to choose if the material is one they approve of. As to adults, I would fully advocate them dropping patronage of a title if it professed something they disapproved of. If they made Spider-man a member of NAMBLA, I’d sooooooo be saying “boycott Spider-man!”

    It’s a parent’s job to give their children a firm bedrock on which to build their own beliefs. Without a firm bedrock, folly soon follows.

  19. Michael L. Says:

    No, I’m saying it’s harmful (and probably impossible outside of a ridiculously sterile environment) to insulate children from everything with which a parent might disagree. I think you are conflating guidance with programming, mentoring with censorship. Opposing views do not go away merely because they are not acknowledged. And one often overlooked aspect of providing “bedrock” for the young is making sure their judgments and beliefs have been considered and challenged. That certainly doesn’t happen when you refuse even to acknowledge that alternatives exist.

    We obviously disagree here, but let me reiterate that I do not believe you are doing a child a favor by cutting them off from the marketplace of ideas. Sooner or later, they will be exposed to it. Spider-Man joining NAMBLA, I think it is safe to say, is a rather absurd and unlikely example…you know as well as I do that the entire readership would be up in arms if such a thing happened regardless of political or social views.) A parent that takes the approach you advocate merely ensures they will be less prepared for it when they finally do get out of the cocoon…and will at that time also lack parental guidance.

  20. Troy Troy Says:

    I do not propose cocooning. I think we are arguing about the degree to which you introduce kids to different ideas, and neither of us will see the other eye-to-eye here. I do feel you contradict yourself with the NAMBLA situation. My whole point is that we always use choice and the decision to purchase or not purchase a product as a way of showing approval or disapproval. I see no difference in using this power of choice over the promotion of a worldview and that of NAMBLA. If you disapprove of a concept, you don’t support it.

    Regardless, I have enjoyed your well argued case. It was a much better exchange than others who just insult. To that end, I thank you for the exchange. However, I think we’ve reached the end and come to the point of “We must agree to disagree.” Good play, sir.

  21. Michael L. Says:

    Likewise.

  22. Arcturus Says:

    Yes! All you 55 years and older tea-baggers have to stop buying your Superman comic books! That’ll show ‘em! Commies.

  23. dea Says:

    I’ve not read comics for years, but I’m in love all over again. This may be a political statement; it for sure is a market strategy. I am heartened that they believe more true Americans feel offended by the Tea Party’s version of America and are offering up their hero in protest of the current political climate. Perfect! I plan to show my gratitude buy purchasing copies for all my friends (and especially those more bent toward this commonsenseconservatism). BTW Troy is scary. He would suggest we raise a generation of sheep, better yet- mushrooms. Our best chance of prospering as a nation is to educate our youth, exposing them to the widest range of ideas and motivating their interest to explore and debate them. Go Superman!

  24. Boscoe Says:

    I agree that this pushes a “world view” or whatever, but that seems like a quite reasonable character evolution for Superman. The only people who would have an issue with this are those who want Supes to remain a shallow jingoistic propaganda icon and likely don’t read comics anyway.

    Considering that Batman has recently “incorporated” himself, I could see an interesting allegory between Supes/Bats/Liberal/Conservative views played out. It’s all just good storytelling.

  25. Bubs Says:

    Actually, considering everything from Frankish law codes helping codify, preserve and synthesize Roman and Germanic laws, to artistic contributions ranging from Cluny to Gauguin, philosophical contributions, including that whole Enlightenment thing that inspired the creation of the US, scientific and mathematical contributions from men like Lavoisier and Pascal, a key contributor to the invention of the university itself around the cathedral school in Paris in the 12th and 13th centuries, religious figures like Bernard of Clairvaux, Abbot Suger, Therese of Lisieux, not to mention all of that stuff going on in the Rota in Avignon. And that’s not even touching on a pretty damn glorious military history, as anyone who sees beyond the last 60 years will acknowledge (again, leaders ranging from Jeanne d’Arc to Napoleon), blithely asserting France’s supposed inferiority, especially on the basis of a single military defeat (and let’s tread lightly around the subject of Vietnam if that’s our criterion) is plain silly.

    The point is not that France is superior or inferior to the US or any other country. The point is that statements asserting the superiority of any nation are inherently idiotic. It’s the sort of thing that simply cannot be objectively measured.

    On the topic of promoting world government, possibly under the aegis of the UN, you do realize that this is a common feature of lots of classic science fiction aimed at kids and teens. It’s all over the place in Heinlein, for instance. And it’s hard to argue with his libertarian credentials (heck, IIRC, he’s the one who coined the term “TANSTAAFL” in a book that featured a pretty active UN on Earth).

    Lots of kids in my generation grew up looking at the UN as a proto-world government and as something to be encouraged along. Somehow we managed to become more clear-eyed about the UN itself as we grew up.

  26. Kimberly Berry Says:

    Wow, I would have never thought Superman would be such a controversial topic-you geeks. It like a scene from the Big Bang Theory-just kidding. I see where Troy is coming from. Even though the economy has been in the tank, government spending is out of control, and among all of the other discrepancies, I am still proud to be a U.S. citizen, and there is no other country I rather live in. I believe that if Superman is renouncing his citizenship, it does send a message that implies we suck, even if you don’t pick up the issue and read it. Which I don’t. Now I will especially not.

  27. Troy Troy Says:

    You are thinking of “The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.” One of my favorite all-time books.

    I cannot believe the amount of outpouring over Superman. All the important topics I discuss, and SUPERMAN is what gets everyone worked up. Jesus.

    I think you have to look at contributions after 1776. We weren’t around. We couldn’t have invited fire, et cetera. I hazard to guess that if you gave any other country “the bomb” with no contenders, the world would look vastly different.

    Sheep exist on the Left and Right. When I hear “Yes We Can” chanted over and over, I can see replays of Hitler’s speeches.

    Okay, well, I’m MOVING ON! My prognosis remains the same. If you approve of what DC is doing, support the franchise. If you feel it’s a slap in the face, don’t. May Capitalism determine the winner.

  28. Scott Says:

    The drum-beat retort from leftist posters — “it’s just a comic book” — is shortsighted. If, as is reminded, Superman is all fantasy — what are extremist leftist political views doing in a Superman storyline meant for kids? Superman was a _symbol_ of the three values associated with him: truth, justice, the American way for the kids who consumed his comics, tv series, movies, etc. When that character states for the same young age group that those values are no longer enough for him to the extent that he would give up his citizenship, and that he doesn’t want his actions misconstrued as supporting American policy, those are highly provocative anti-American messages to lay on very impressionable young people and they just don’t belong in a fantasy comic at the age kids are supposed to be reading these comics — 6, 7, 8 yrs etc. Parents understand (as evidently does DC) — young kids tend to copy and conform to the values they are exposed to. And that is why this parent will no longer expose our kids to Superman or anything else from DC — and that goes double for the Zach Snyder / David Goyer movie. We will not give our tacit approval to DC’s hate-America message, and we will not add another dime to the coffers of a company that apparently has a history of supporting leftist causes, and used a seminal American fantasy figure like Superman to spew an extremist Anti-American message for a very young and pliable audience.

  29. Superpatriot Says:

    Show me any one country that has done more for the world than America. – about every country but the USofA

    We have fought for more people and sacrificed more treasure than any other country in history. – You mean killed …not fought, because fighting wars is still killing people no matter if the cause was just, like one sunken ship to start a war in vietnam. And for the sacrificial part – the war on oil lately fought by the big W should´ve compensated for all other expenses, just sent the bills to the american oil companies.

  30. Superman and the Citizenship Debacle « Diary of a Comic Book Goddess Says:

    [...] The scary part is some of the comments and commenters, who equate Superman’s questioning of American supremacy as proof that he’s homosexual (WHAT?) as well as spurring on a stunning number of racist diatribes.* As with the Thor-debacle, they’re accusing left-wing writers of using sacred symbols to push their evil agendas (while simultaneously slamming American values and the American identity). [...]

  31. Troy Troy Says:

    I don’t get that (other than the underpants over tights look, but that can be said about a lot of heroes). I don’t know the Thor-debacle. I loved the movie, actually (see my post regarding it). However, Superman is from DC which is owned by Warner Brothers, which is known to be a supporter of the Left. I definitely feel that it fair to conclude that Superman renouncing his citizenship is being tacit approval of a mult-national/one world/UN approach to governance.

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  33. Troy Troy Says:

    What is wrong with “boycotting” anything you disapprove of? The fact of the matter is, if you disapprove of the direction/message of a series, you would be wise not to purchase more of it. Why would you continue to buy something you disprove of? People have gotten nuts by calling everything a “boycott.”

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